White Mage: Male or Female?

Let's settle this eternal question once and for all, in the most scientific way possible: an anonymous internet poll. What is white mage?

Male
25 Votes (21.93%)
Female
78 Votes (68.42%)
Other?
11 Votes (9.65%)

74 Comments
Apr 12, 2010 03:29 PM PDT

Nobody can beat a male FF1 white mage.

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Apr 12, 2010 03:33 PM PDT

But we'll never know, because the one in FF1 is female.

Apr 12, 2010 03:52 PM PDT

Haha, I almost voted "Other?" Just because it was an option. That's hilarious.

Apr 12, 2010 03:56 PM PDT

White Mage is female. AND NO CHANGING TO ZELDA OR DRAGON WARRIOR (QUEST)!

Apr 12, 2010 04:01 PM PDT

Female

Not an attractive female, but a female never the less

Apr 12, 2010 04:26 PM PDT

I've changed my mind. White Mage in battle sprite is actually quite cute. Love the red hair.

Apr 12, 2010 04:51 PM PDT

For the sake of the poll, I just had to side with the crappily-drawn /male/ White Mage in the Strategy Guide. Have to go with my toddler instincts here. Girls don't fight; they just stand around waiting to get rescued. Come on.

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Apr 12, 2010 05:39 PM PDT

The Strategy Guide isn't canon.

Begin countdown until Nicole sees what you said about girls waiting to be rescued, and rips you a new orifice. Nice knowing you.

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*nom nom*
Apr 12, 2010 06:02 PM PDT

Where do you want it?

Apr 12, 2010 06:53 PM PDT

Garnet from FFIX was smoking hot in her white mage get up.

Also, girls can be violent. Who said they can't be?

Apr 12, 2010 09:38 PM PDT

The front walking sprite settled it for me gotta be a girl

Apr 12, 2010 10:16 PM PDT

Do you think a man could possibly wield a giant Hammer for such pathetic damage?

Not with Fighter's and Master's and Ninjas and BM's all over the place, no.

WM must be a girl who is simply tough enough to hang with the boys. Either that or a guy with his nuts lopped off.

And I'll tell ya, an injury like that would lead any man down the furthest reaches of the healing paths, I guarantee.

Apr 13, 2010 05:41 AM PDT

Because somebody had to do it.

Apr 13, 2010 06:53 AM PDT

Interesting... when I first played I always assumed it was a male. Then other FFs came out and I assumed it was female.

P.S. I'd like to see this as a Bubble Bauble website!

Apr 13, 2010 12:32 PM PDT

white mage is a girly girl woman. no man could wield a hammer that huge and hit that crappy. Ex: Thor of Asgard.

Apr 13, 2010 12:48 PM PDT

I say a girl, WM is a healer, plus girls typically wield hammers(see Amy from the Sonic games).

Apr 13, 2010 01:43 PM PDT

Oh, anywhere's fine. Just try not to get any blood on the carpet. It's kind of new.

Anyhow, those were my toddler instincts talking. In real life, I'd rather not get into a scrap with a woman--they tend to be far more vicious than dudes.

Besides, http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&source=hp&q=female+bodybuilders&gbv=2&aq=0&aqi=g10&gs_rfai=&start=0

Apr 13, 2010 02:13 PM PDT

She's actually a lame Terminatrix in disguise, waiting for her long-overdue FF sequel.

Apr 13, 2010 04:49 PM PDT

NES= Male, Remakes= Female

Apr 13, 2010 05:30 PM PDT

Final Fantasy NES - Male. And ever other Final Fantasy game Female.

And what makes people think men are stronger myself a women could/probably/will take me down in a fight.

@FF1BlackMage14 comment up a couple spots. 'they tend to be far more vicious than dudes.'

I heard the Police prefer to deal with Men over Female because of that.

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Apr 13, 2010 06:30 PM PDT

So she puts vinegar on french fries and now she thinks white mage is male? How could you even marry that heathen?

White mage is female because 8-bit theater says so.

Apr 13, 2010 10:56 PM PDT

You are foolish to provoke the creater's wife...

Apr 13, 2010 11:16 PM PDT

I always thought the white mage was female. As a kid, I never thought about the stereotype that healers must be female; I just thought she looked like a female. In an 8-bit sprite sort of way.

Apr 14, 2010 12:08 AM PDT

White Mage does look like a female in the nes version.

Despite the unfortunate name of Tomy (which means nothing to me. If it was TOM, it would be spelled as such) in the guidebook, I think that there are some grossly feminine features that appear designed to counter the more blatantly masculine features of the other characters, especially the BW.

@ Alpha: Men are stronger than women. I don't think that. I know that.

A woman who is tough or knows martial arts or something might be able to take down a man, especially wimpy men, but that doesn't mean that women are equal in strength. It just means that there's a variety of different people.

On average, I think we can all agree that if a set amount women and a set amount of men, randomly selected, were to try and swing a war hammer with some amount of force, the statistical amount of men who swing with greater strength than women would be astronomical, but not astonishing (expected).

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Apr 14, 2010 09:59 AM PDT

@Um... Right, there are two points: 1) Men are on average stronger than women, 2) Any given woman may or may not be stronger than any given man. Of those two points I think the latter is by far the more important one.

Apr 14, 2010 03:48 PM PDT

@alpha, I agree, plus many anime and cartoons emphasize that.

Apr 15, 2010 04:18 PM PDT

anime isnt even in the same league as videogames, especially ff1. dont even dare attempt to suggest that again or i will hack brians account and ban you. ban you hard.

Apr 15, 2010 11:01 PM PDT

@ Brian

lol, well you can play the lotto if you want.

I reckon the former is far mroe important, since it's far more relevant to the majority of the scenarios I'll encounter.

This is the situation that remains, however:

A White Mage LIGHT WARRIOR

A character who willing puts himself/herself at the forefront of a battle against hordes or demons, fiends, ultimately the elements and chaos itself.

Is it more likely to be

1. A strong woman

2. A weak man

I think the answer should be obvious

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Apr 16, 2010 10:17 AM PDT

FF7 had a tiny teenage girl who could kill enormous monsters. Discounting Cat Claw, white mage is as strong a fighter as black mage (who is clearly male) for most of the game. Given a Masamune, white mage does as much damage as a mid-level Fighter.

Many (most?) fantasy-genre games, novels, and videos which depict females generally have them on par with men. D&D rules for example don't penalize women, they receive no STR or CON penalties. Example 2: Buffy the Vampire Slayer.

QED.

Apr 23, 2010 12:53 PM PDT

One more thing to help prove it's a girl, in Final Fantasy games, boy white mages have their hoods down but girls have their hoods on.

Apr 24, 2010 08:46 PM PDT

So by this logic, the Class Change changes the White Mage from a woman into a man? Bahamut's got hisself some crazy powers.

Apr 25, 2010 03:28 AM PDT

Well, duh. In the Final Fantasy universe, men are simply promoted women.

Apr 26, 2010 03:48 AM PDT

@FF1BM14, that's not what I was implying, I meant most of the time white mage girls have their hoods on, they can come off ocaisonally, in the wind, when sleeping, and in this case, class change.

May 23, 2010 08:08 PM PDT

actually i'd say white mage could be either. looks kinda feminate, but still could pass for a guy. when class change happens and white mage becomes white wizard, he or she looks like every other person in lefein. and thus for the somewhat isolated town to still have citizens after so many years the characters design must be used for both genders. and since white wizard has the same design and since white mage turns into white wizard, the chartacter must be gender neutral, leaving it up to the player to decide which gender they want. if anyone has played the nes version ff3 they will notice that the same white mage design is used, but none of the characters look female in their starting job (you can change jobs in the game).

Jun 01, 2010 10:36 PM PDT

No man would wear that. Also, has anyone else noticed that in FFX-2 Yuna's white mage dressphere looks like the original white mage? cool, huh?

Jun 06, 2010 05:16 PM PDT

@ SethOmega: no kman would wear, you say. yet there are men that wear tights for ballet. like with ballet, it takes a real man to wear that costume

Jun 20, 2010 02:20 PM PDT

@ Brian: Nice D&D Reference

I thought that White Mage always was a woman, and a tough one at that...

Jun 25, 2010 03:22 AM PDT

She is female... I guess.

Jun 25, 2010 02:25 PM PDT

First things first...if a White Mage was male...I would assume he would be gay...which isn't good when you have a team of testosterone driven men. So the White Mage could only be a female...because only a female can be extremely gentle...but don't get me wrong either...they also can be vicious, too.

Jul 12, 2010 09:55 PM PDT

...elamef skool yltiniffed ehS

She deffinitly looks female...

Jul 13, 2010 05:10 PM PDT

You can tell by the long hair when she becomes a Wizard, none of the others have long hair so it can only lead one to believe that she is female.

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Jul 14, 2010 11:58 AM PDT

What is with people thinking only woman should have long hair?

Jul 15, 2010 08:08 AM PDT

Usually in games only women have long hair, but it's also a common steryotype.

Jul 21, 2010 12:34 AM PDT

Whether or not he/she can hurt people with the Masamune.... it still can't aim shit through half the game...

Jul 22, 2010 11:59 AM PDT

It's a girl, all of the all/most of the auto-names are for girls. Personally, I think it's just speculation, you are entitled to think what you want. Peace on Earth!

Jul 23, 2010 05:56 PM PDT

@Fairies in bottles

so by that logic RM is a Woman?

Jul 25, 2010 08:51 AM PDT

Of course is White Mage a female Character.

Jul 26, 2010 06:37 AM PDT

I named mine Fran....So yeah, she's female....

Jul 26, 2010 06:39 AM PDT

@Faries in bottles

Uh....That isn't really true....LOADS of male characters in video games have long hair....

Jul 31, 2010 09:35 PM PDT

For the sake of gender equality, I have to say that in the NES and PSP versions WM looks feminine while in the other versions WM looks more masculine/androgynous. I think a white mage can be male or female. Let's not forget Minwu from FFII.

Aug 04, 2010 03:51 PM PDT

@Kain

Red mage is a male, it's not a female just because he has long hair does not mean he is a girl.

Aug 06, 2010 01:20 PM PDT

Well it would seem desciminatory if there was no girls as characters. To be fare, to both genders some playable characters would be guys, some girls. Since the debate usually is about the white mages gender and no others one would have to assume, out of fainess, the white mage is a female. Of course, when they made the game they may not of had the same morals as we do now. And because of the debate, FF had more females, or made sure you knew they were females, in later games. In all fairness, if the white mage could be male of female, then logicly any other character could be female to. I mean look at the black mage, you have no clue what he looks like at first.

Aug 11, 2010 10:49 AM PDT

it has to be female. Or else how is she the mother off my kid

Aug 24, 2010 07:13 AM PDT

Her face as a mage looks feminine. But the WW... Not sure.

Sep 01, 2010 12:11 AM PDT

Okay here's the cold hard facts:

In the NES version the White Mage is a male.

In Origins the White Mage was changed to a female.

I remember there was a big debate over whether or not to change one of the characters to a female for marketing reasons, the White Mage was chosen because he looked the least manly. Take notice of this: If the White Mage was a female in the NES version, there would have been no debate. I don't work for squaresoft but I read about this issue when Origins was in development. On another note, while the media portrays women as being as physically powerful as men, in reality men beat women in all attributes except flexibility. Just look at major sports and the olympics. Women aren't even allowed to play on the same team as men because they are inferior. No offense to girls, but it's true.

Sep 04, 2010 05:08 AM PDT

XD

Sep 04, 2010 07:15 AM PDT

My first WM was called "HANK" and I stick by that.

Totally a guy!

Sep 18, 2010 10:25 PM PDT

if you look at WM really close i mean very close to the face it looks like a girl

Mar 06, 2014 02:08 AM PST

Is this one of those Leia is your sister moments?

Apr 14, 2015 05:15 PM PDT

Both sexes can be a white mage, but the one in FF1 is definitely female.

Jun 08, 2015 02:20 AM PDT

I have my White Mage be gender queer just because thats how I role.

Aug 03, 2015 06:33 AM PDT

It's too bad none of the FF1 versions (even the more recent ones) have the option to choose your party members' genders, thus finally putting an end to this age-old debate.

Sep 06, 2015 09:34 PM PDT

FF1 is definatley a female, I mean look at the long hair once you get the upgrade. Also It's sorta confirmed in differen't versions.

Sep 24, 2015 11:29 PM PDT

Female, due to PSP version. Look at the white wizard!

Sep 25, 2015 12:14 PM PDT

Hello I'm new and I just made an account, yep for real no joke because I could not stand by and keep watching this, the obvious answer is that White Mage is a female, but why you may ask is my argument better than everyone else's the reason is I have 3 reasons in listed.

1) In older games avatars which were healers = woman (I'd mention long hair but that was not always the case)

2) It makes sense market-wise to attract a broader audience

3) I am me, I must be right I even added a list :)

Bonus) If you look closely the sprite looks female and 8bit said it was and you can always trust 8bit.

Jan 14, 2016 02:05 PM PST

I married my wife because she looks like a white wizard so she better be female lol!

May 28, 2016 07:41 PM PDT

Male... maybe he's just and effeminate gay dude.

May 28, 2016 07:43 PM PDT

Not that there's anything wrong with that :) ... no seriously, there's nothing wrong with it.

Jul 26, 2016 11:38 AM PDT

As stereotypical as it is, I can't help but see the White Mage as a chick (admittedly a rather butch one in the NES version) and everyone else as a dude, despite TV Tropes trying to tell me all the Mages are androgynous.

I can sorta see the NES White Mage/Wizard being a guy. I can't see the Red and Black Mages/Wizards as chicks at all. Let alone trying to pass off the physical classes as chicks, like some have.

One a sidenote, in almost every playthrough I've done where I have a WM, I call her Katie (PSP version) or KATE (NES version).

Aug 19, 2016 08:01 PM PDT

White Mage seems like a feminine guy to me. I named mine Bailey in DoS and 20th and Rain on NES. He's awesome :D

Aug 19, 2016 08:05 PM PDT

He might be gay though. I don't care if he likes men. He heals and that's good enough for me.

Mar 25, 2017 02:02 PM PDT

A lot of the white mages in Final Fantasy have been female (Rosa, Garnet, etc). Plus have you seen (her) sprite in Anniversary Edition?

I mean, in the other versions, her long hair is shown after the class change (not being sexist or anything) but when she has her hood up, she totally looks like a boy.

PSP, you can see that she's female even as a White Mage. Plus at least one of the classes has to be female, right?

Mar 30, 2017 10:29 PM PDT

I'm not exactly sure how people can assume the White Mage's gender, but I would imagine them being male. Even looking at the game's sprites doesn't really help with the assumption. For all we know they could be both, or neither!

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